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Whitewash's Interview of the Westmans - Part 1
« on: November 29, 2019, 04:00:33 pm »
Note: This document has recently surfaced and contains additional information about the events of the night of Maura's accident and disappearance. A special thanks to her, those that preserved the document and to /u/Froggydog for having posted it.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2019, 02:09:59 pm by MauraMurrayEvidence »

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Whitewash's Interview of the Westmans - Part 2
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2019, 04:01:57 pm »
Original post by Whitewash, Topx Post #5843, October 7, 2008

White Wash
Lebanon, NH
5843

Oct 7, 2008

In January 07 I was lucky enough to speak with the Westman I had planned on doing a recap in 07 but was unable to recap any unknown.

1. Westmans are working in their home office.
2. They hear a thumb Faith goes to the kitchen looks out the window and sees a dark car off the road.
3. She called 911.
4. The car remains dark.
5. Atwood arrives with 1-2 min per Faith. They opens the door and speaks to the drive who is out now Talking to him over the roof of the car. Faith makes a point she doesn't know if it's Butch or Barbara's Bus.
7. Atwood is there 1-2 mines tops Faith says.
8. Faith sees the driver put on the flashers.
9. Driver goes to the trunk then back to car lights going on and off and She see a red dot on the passengers side.
10. Faith goes back to the front room to help Tim on the computer.
11. Still on the phone with 911.
12. Hears a car goes back to the kitchen window.
13. See Smith nose to nose hangs up with 911.
14.Both Westmans claim zero cars came through in that amount of time.
15. Goes back to the Tim in the front room who is still working.
16. Smith shows up and wants to know if the driver is there.
17.There is no one at the car. Faith looks out the window and the car is dark.
18. Cecil leaves and goes to Atwoods and he drove down.
19. Cecil returns to the car.
20. That is when fire/rescue showed the staged at Old Peter's Road.
21. Tim Westman goes out then to help. He checks his barn and with FD the Parking lot and around their house.
22. The game trail is checked.
23. Old Peter's Road is check as well as up and down both sides of the road.
24. Westmans claim crews where there a long time.
25. Odd all this activity and TM never comes out? Allegedly he wasn't home
26. The Westmans claim the road that night was a dry.
27. Tim Westman comments several times he is baffled she made around the corner then crashed just doesn't happen that way.
28. Believes she did try to start the car and it wouldn't which indicates that air bag did go off and she couldn't restart the car.
29. They saw no skid marks.
30. NHSP have been out there cadaver dogs.
31. HPD set up a road block the next Tuesday night for 2 hours.

Original Notes, reposted by Dawn, Topix Post #18513, April 8, 2009.

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Wednesday Apr 8

Here is WW post - this one is very easy to read and has detailed info.

White Wash wrote:

In January 07 I was lucky enough to speak with the Westman I had planned on doing a recap in 07 but was unable to recap any unknown.

1. Westmans are working in their home office.

2. They hear a thumb Faith goes to the kitchen looks out the window and sees a dark car off the road.

3. She called 911.

4. The car remains dark.

5. Atwood arrives with 1-2 min per Faith. They opens the door and speaks to the drive who is out now Talking to him over the roof of the car. Faith makes a point she doesn't know if it's Butch or Barbara's Bus.

7. Atwood is there 1-2 mines tops Faith says.

8. Faith sees the driver put on the flashers.

9. Driver goes to the trunk then back to car lights going on and off and She see a red dot on the passengers side.

10. Faith goes back to the front room to help Tim on the computer.

11. Still on the phone with 911.

12. Hears a car goes back to the kitchen window.

13. See Smith nose to nose hangs up with 911.

14.Both Westmans claim zero cars came through in that amount of time.

15. Goes back to the Tim in the front room who is still working.

16. Smith shows up and wants to know if the driver is there.

17.There is no one at the car. Faith looks out the window and the car is dark.

18. Cecil leaves and goes to Atwoods and he drove down.

19. Cecil returns to the car.

20. That is when fire/rescue showed the staged at Old Peter's Road.

21. Tim Westman goes out then to help. He checks his barn and with FD the Parking lot and around their house.

22. The game trail is checked.

23. Old Peter's Road is check as well as up and down both sides of the road.

24. Westmans claim crews where there a long time.

25. Odd all this activity and TM never comes out? Allegedly he wasn't home

26. The Westmans claim the road that night was a dry.

27. Tim Westman comments several times he is baffled she made around the corner then crashed just doesn't happen that way.

28. Believes she did try to start the car and it wouldn't which indicates that air bag did go off and she couldn't restart the car.

29. They saw no skid marks.

30. NHSP have been out there cadaver dogs.

31. HPD set up a road block the next Tuesday night for 2 hours.

Note: http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg452/ONEMM4ME/mm001.jpg
This is a photograph taken by the Interviewer, which, along with other photos in the photobucket collection is clear indication that the note taker was able to discuss various aspects of the case with Witnesses and other unknown officials.
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Whitewash's Interview of the Westmans - Part 3
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2019, 04:02:38 pm »
Haverhill-

The car accident that happened on Feb. 9, 2004 along the Wild Ammonoosuc River changed not only Maura Murray's life but that of her family, friends and definitely the entire community along Route 112 in Woodsville. The mystery of what happened to Murray, 21, a University of Massachusetts nursing student who disappeared that night is still plaguing everyone. Too many questions still swirl around about what happened that tragic night.

Area residents have been barraged for three years with police, private investigators, reporters, Murray family, friends and supporters all searching, questioning and frustrated. The residents have been caught up in an investigation just because it happened in their neighborhood. Every turn in the case has led to another question.

Despite thousands of hours spent by law enforcement, fire and rescue, family and friends and a whole host of forum members on her website www.MauraMurrayMissing.Com everyone has the same two questions, "Where is Maura" and "What happened to her?" Helena Murray, spokesperson for the Maura Murray website states the website was started to generate tips for Searching for Maura. Murray states many people assume law enforcement or the family knows all there is know when in fact they do not. Murray hopes that the information discussed on the website may jog someone's memory. Information discussed vary from the fact that Maura's favorite super market was indeed Shaw's. Maura believed in flossing and brushing even after snacks. Murray took a leave absence from her own career to assist the Family with the Website and to serve as Media Resource for many. Since stepping into Role Murray has served the family in keeping the Search for Maura going forward.

There has been much focus on what was not done and little on what was done by those who attempted to assist Ms. Murray that evening.

Across from the Weathered Barn on Route 112 is the Tim and Faith Westman home. The Westmans have been caught up in the flurry of activity that stemmed from that Feb. 9 when a young woman vanished. Only three people may have been the last to see Maura Murray. Faith Westman may be of the three. If it is Murray they all saw that night.

THAT NIGHT

The Westmans Share

Faith and Tim Westman were working in their home office in the front of their home which faces Route 112. "We heard a thump," Faith Westman states and she went to her kitchen window and saw a car parallel-parked across the road with no lights on and called 9-1-1. Faith Westman states she believed she was one of the three 9-1-1 call received about this accident. Her call is received by Grafton County Dispatch approximately at 7:29 p.m. While on the phone with Dispatch, Faith witnesses a school bus driven by one of her two neighbors that Drove for First Student Busing. Westman was unable to tell which of the Atwoods Where driving that night. Westman saw the school bus approach the car within minutes to her phoning 911. Westman claims the bus driver opened the door and spoke to a driver who was out of the car. The school bus driver remained on the bus and Faith states the conversation seemed to be 1-2 minutes in length. Westman notes that the car driver activated the four-way hazard lights. She saw the school bus leave and Westman noted the driver was at the trunk of the car, then returned to the vehicle inside and Westman saw the interior lights flashed on and off. Westman recalls seeing a "red dot" moving around the front of the car. It was at this point that Faith assumed the driver was fine and returned to her own business she believes still on the phone with 911 as nothing appeared to be out of the normal and with in minutes Westmans states they heard a car pull up and Faith checked out the kitchen window and states she sees a Haverhill Police Department cruiser and ends the call with 911.

Faith Westman resumed her computer work with her husband. Since the Westmans have lived in their home some 35 years such an occurrence is not that much out of the norm so a compelling need to continue to watching didn't seem To occur to either her or her husband Tim Westman.

So when Sgt, Cecil Smith showed up at their door later asking about the vehicle's driver, Faith Westman was shocked. Faith remembers going to the kitchen window and checking the abandoned vehicle in disbelief for herself.

Faith Westman told Sgt. Smith that they had seen one of the Atwoods stop to check if the driver was OK. The Westmans stated they could not tell whether the driver was male or female. Westman informed Smith they saw the driver turn the four-ways on and was moving about the interior of the car. That was their first initial interview about the incident.

After a period of time, Sgt. Smith returns to check their Weathered Barn and parking lot . Tim Westman assisted Smith. Tim Westman states that on scene fire personnel are searching Old Peter's Road. Further inspection occurred of the gaming trail that runs along the Westman backfields that runs the length of their property to their neighbors' the Atwoods' property. Tim reported that he remembers no footprints were found other than deer tracks along the gaming trail.

Tim Westman recalls that the road that night was as dry as it would be on a sunny day. Tim Westman, "I'm as baffled today by the fact the driver indeed cleared the corner" and noted that Murray's vehicle was not at the usual resting place of most vehicles that do not make the sharp corner of the road.

Tim Westman recalls the car was several feet up the road from the corner and not resting at the brightly ribbon-covered tree. He remembers the vehicle was at a set of three trees which leads him to believe the driver was indeed going too fast for the corner and was over the yellow line correcting themselves perhaps too much. The thump they heard was indeed that of something striking the trees.

The vehicle was completely locked when Sgt. Smith found it. It remained locked even after a local towing company impounded it. A warrant was secured and the car was inspected by law enforcement authorities. The vehicle was released to it's rightful owner Fred Murray. Both Fred and Billy went through the car that week. Eventually the car was turned it over to law enforcement officials when the case Turned from a missing persons to an investigation.

The Woodsville Fire Department was holding its monthly officers meeting on 2/9/04 which started at 7 PM that evening. For Grafton County, it is standard procedure to tone a fire department to the scene of a motor-vehicle accident to check for leakage.

Fire personnel involved state they received a BOLO that reached some 63 agencies on the way to the scene by Grafton County Dispatch ordered by Sgt Smith for a female, 5 feet 7 inches who had left the scene of the accident they were responding to.

Other Eyewitnesses

There are statements confirming that New Hampshire State Police did stop one resident walking from the Stagecoach Store in the area of Bunga Road along with returning rescue personnel who had been cleared from the scene. It was This same local resident also reported to local authorities that she had seen a red truck, with what she believed to be Massachusetts licensed plates, go by her when she was walking and had slow down enough to make her uneasy. She then saw the same red truck sitting in the parking lot at the Stagecoach Store. When she reached the store lot, the red truck left.

Another Bradley Hill resident returning from a school board meeting stated they were stopped prior to Weathered Barn by responding personnel still on scene who informed them there was a missing driver and asked to search their property which borders Route 112 and Bradley Hill when they arrived home.

Most residents can produce numerous business cards from law enforcement officials to private investigators, and the media who over the past three years all have revisited all residents asking questions, looking for leads with no avail as another year passes with all asking the two same questions "Where is Maura" and "What happened to Maura Murray on February 9, 2004" regardless of the theory the same two questions still remain. Anyone with any information is encouraged to contact New Hampshire State Police Major Crimes Unit at (603) 271-2663 or (800) 852-3411 or the website listed above.
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Whitewash's Interview of the Westmans - Part 4
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2019, 04:03:43 pm »
White Wash's Notes contained no asterisks, those asterisks were comments made by Peripetia, when she reposted Dawn's post with the purpose of adding her comments with the astrics, in post #18513. Peripetia also reposted at the Yuku Forum.

Dawn, in post #18499, reposted the list made by White Wash on a previous occasion.

Originals:
Whitewash's original post:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByBfe6nS9-d4QVhMcFRwNllDOW8
Peripeteia's rebuttal intermixed with Whitewash's original post:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByBfe6nS9-d4OEVJTEUxckF4X0k
Dawn's repost of Whitewash's original post:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByBfe6nS9-d4dXowcWJMWDFwSXc

Note: Google drive does not display these as a web page, but instead, the source text. You have to save the file and open it with a web browser to see the page as it was.

Question from Clint Harting:

"Hey Hunter,

Do you know who Peripeta is?

I think she is one of the original folks that claimed Monaghan was off-duty."

Response: "I figured out what the sequence of events was last night unfortunately - the discussion at the other subreddit being past 100 posts by that time.

I was going to put that up at the Evidence subreddit and realized i should look in my Topix archive, that you wouldn't have. You drew the most reasonable conclusion you could.

Best i have is second hand vague belief about Peri. I believe by memory and ive been wrong before, she was a nurse from Nova Scotia and maybe an aunt of Mauras.

Better knowledge would come from John Smith."
« Last Edit: December 21, 2019, 02:10:41 pm by MauraMurrayEvidence »

 

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